Believer: How come no one created the universe?
Me: I didn’t say it wasn’t created, what we know as the universe was created but it wasnt by what you think of as god.
Believer: Are you saying God didn’t create the universe and give you life?
Me: Not God as you define it.
Believer: Is there another God that you believe in?
Me: I guess so. I don’t believe in the Abrahamic God.
Believer: If I was you I’d be careful with what I say, don’t blaspheme about God, he could hurt you, you’ll go to hell.
Me: Well, my god is not a “he”, and hell doesn’t exist.
Believer: Oh God!
Me: Yes?
Believer: So, who created the Universe?
Me: It created itself, I call it Omniverse.
Believer: How can something create itself?
Me: I see the universe to be God, and God was never created.
Believer: If the universe exists, it must have been created, and the only one who can create it is God.
Me: True, but what is God?
Believer: Are you an Atheist?
Me: No, but try to define God please.
Believer: The God the bible talks about.
Me: Eternal, Infinite, Transcendent, Holy, Divine, Omni present, all powerful God? (note to self: sounds like my god!)
Believer: Exactly.
Me: So, God was always there, and he created everything?
Believer: Exactly!!
Me: Sounds like my god, except mine is not sitting on a throne judging people
Believer: silence.
Me: Who created God?
Believer: He is God, he doesn’t need to be created!
Me: I thought for anything to exist it must have been created.
Believer: But not God, he is eternal.
Me: My god is eternal too.
Believer: So you believe in Jesus?
Me: No, what I said was my god was also eternal. He was not created.
Believer: So you are a Christian?
Me: No. I don’t believe in the god talked about in the bible. My god is the universe.
Believer: What! My God created the universe! Why do you worship his creation but not him?
Me: My universe is god, it did not need to be created. I call it Omniverse, and our universe is one of many possible universes within this Oneness I call the Omniverse.
Believer: How could something exist without being made by God?
Me: God exists, doesn’t he? Who made Him (your God)?
Believer: God is eternal, the bible says so.
Me: Do you know what I mean by an Omniverse?
Believer: I don’t care.
.. end of conversation ..
One conclusion you may reach from the above discussion: Things get lost in translation, thanks to one’s perceptions (mostly subconscious) and fears. People will see, when they are ready to. Planting a seed of wisdom or vision is sometimes all you should do. Once the person is ready to see, explore, get out of their shell, they will but only then.
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